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I just got VeRO'ed for selling a cell phone model Nextel i930 on eBay.
No explaination was given.
Is it not allowed to sell something that motorola hasn't released in USA yet?
I imported this one item not too long ago too.
I thought that vero is only for fake items.
Cheers
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Below was taken in part from the Motorola property rights owner About Me page. I know it's talking about 2 way radios but maybe the same applies for cell phones?
Selling Motorola manufactured......radios within North America infringes on Motorola's Intellectual Property and is against U.S. and Canadian Federal Law. These radios were designed for sale and use within Europe-Middle East-Africa (EMEA), Latin America and Asia Pacific commercial two-way radio marketplaces. They are NOT ‘Type Accepted’ for use within North America, by either the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) or Industry Canada, thus, are not marked so with an FCC or Industry Canada ‘Type Acceptance’ sticker. Replacing the nameplate of one of these radios with one from a North American radio of ‘like kind’ does NOT make the re-marked radio ‘Type Accepted’ for use within North America. Further, these radios are NOT designed NOR advertised to be sold as amateur radio units. Neither Motorola's North America sales staff nor its licensed North American radio dealers are allowed to sell these radios within North America for these reasons.
Motorola licensed service shops are NOT authorized to carryout warranty repairs on these radios because they are considered 'grey market' radios; illegally imported radios carry NO North American warranty. Their use by a purchaser is illegal in North America.
Motorola is aware that unscrupulous persons are smuggling these radios into North America and are selling them either 'as is' or as ‘re-marked' radios to unsuspecting North America purchasers. Motorola is working closely with U.S. and Canadian Customs and Law Enforcement authorities to stop illegal importation and sales. Persons caught selling these illegally imported radios within North America may be subject to arrest and, if convicted, penalized with up to 5 years in prison and up to $250,000 in fines.
If you are a non-North American Motorola radio owner who is attempting to sell a non-North America radio, mark your auction clearly with a statement that you will not sell or ship the radio to a North America buyer.
Motorola About Me page.
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Hi
I actually read their whole about me page.
I heard that i930 is not released in USA yet, so I thought that's the reason?
Their about me page doesn't make too much sense to me
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I heard that i930 is not released in USA yet, so I thought that's the reason?
That would be my guess. Will it ever be released here? Judging from what they say about their radios it looks like they make some products just for certain countries. Maybe those phones aren't approved for the US by the FCC yet (if ever), assuming the FCC has to approve cell phones first.
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aaa .........the joy of selling electronics
Motorola can get in trouble from all the gov't agencies if their product is sold "new in the box" in a country they have not acquired a liscense for
Do you really expect Motorola to pay a fine for YOU and YOUR profit when they probably haven't even made 5 cents off those items because you bought them from some scum bag in the orient/vietnam/taiwan who is making them for Motorola and selling extras out the back door......
Of course, if Motorola had not have outsourced the work in the first plavce-oh never mind, that is a conversation for Crossfire
And if you got caught selling these in Canada, well that is a whole 'nuther set of fines and rules and regulations.
nope, Motorola is perfectly within their legal rights and SHOULD enforce this....which isn't even so much a VERO rule but a Liscensing rule.....and much, much more important to be enforced.
sorry it happened to you but next time, be more careful on what you import, your suppliers are obviously shady.
And be very careful if you decide to flog these at a flea market.
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It is never a good idea to try to sell electronics in the USA which lack the FCC Certified sticker which was assigned to the item (not a swapped sticker).
I've personally seen and talked to an FCC engineer at a trade show who walked around giving out citations to people showing and selling uncertified electronics. So I know they are actively preventing this. Be happy that you only got a warning from VERO, if that is all that happens. It could have been a visit from the FCC.
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Ouch, I really didn't know.
I was actually selling the original housing for it, not the phone itself.
So it's the same thing huh? I can't do that yet until they release it in USA?
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are you saying there is no wiring or anything inside this item, just a piece of plastic
if so, then it is just a vero issue.
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It has a ribbon in it and some wiring, but it's not the full phone.
It's a replacement part only.
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its got wiring, it needs a liscense....